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Two Wives and A Spark

May 4, 2021

“Practice makes permanence.” - Mark Salinas 

Welcome to the third episode of Two Wives and a SPARK! Today’s episode starts with a story about a child who does not understand the amount of work it takes for a permanent marker to come off a desk. We talk about how that’s a metaphor for a country still working on the stain that racism has left on its history. 

We speak about how working for racial equity, racial justice, and racial harmony is like a marathon and not a sprint; just like a marathon makes your legs hurt, this specific marathon might make your heart and heart hurt at times. We also discuss the diligent work and patience required to address the stain of racism and how that journey resembles a marathon. In order to run a marathon, you must practice, learn, research, develop habits, and precisely understand how to embrace discomfort. It’s about developing permanent habits and having permanent reminders. 

Join us on this episode in exploring what it will take to get toward racial equity, justice, and harmony together.

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Questions to consider this week: 

  • What marathon are you working on? 
  • What is your “why” for this work? 
  • What did this episode spark for you? 




S.P.A.R.K. acronym:

  • Show up authentically 
  • Pause and listen
  • Ask; do not assume
  • Respect diversity
  • Kindly expect conflict and messiness